Remember that only half of the demonization in the miniseries is the creative invention of Craig Mazin (clearly channeling all his bad bosses from previous jobs). Remember that to even get near a job in somewhere like Chernobyl, you had to be pretty much impeccable. PS this letter was never published anywhere. But if we look at history itself, I've searched on many sources and all agree in one part: every decision approved and taked that night, went through Dyatlov. [–]Witty-username4203.6 Roentgen 16 points17 points18 points 4 months ago (2 children), Yeah she was most angry about how she didn’t know anything about the show to an extent in the interview I will link she was saying she was called about it but wasn’t given much info. The other half is part of a three-decade smear campaign, inaugurated by the propaganda machine and scientific community of the USSR. Which, in my opinion, were from the ranks of the KGB, then the Gosplan, and therefore ultimately the Politburo. Get up to 50% off. Dyatlov bore responsibility. And does one need to ignore horrifying pain to be considered 'brave'? She doesn’t know what would happen because they don’t teach people, not because she’s selfish or dumb, [–]wins_stupid_prizes 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children). [–]BookerTheTwit 11 points12 points13 points 4 months ago (6 children). I heard their reaction was not great, but not terrible. Maybe he was.. but in some reports he was a driven soviet man who wanted results, but tried his hardest to overturn his colleagues convictions. were mostly a Soviet red herring to scapegoat Dyatlov and others. [–]Kashmir33 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (0 children). On the other hand, if you did a good job and/or liked the challenge, you might feel that someone like this helped you become better than you were before. It is a 5-part dramatization of the events that happened after the catastrophic nuclear accident at the Chernobyl power plant near Pripyat in the north of the Ukrainian USSR. Not that it was ever used, obviously, but for a while everyone thought that the graphite chunks were from there. I don't know much about his work relations but I base my opinion on him, from his interview. So basically there is very compelling evidence. The Chernobyl disaster was a nuclear accident that occurred on 26 April 1986, at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.There had been 160 personnel on duty in the two power plant complexes during the night of 25 to 26 April, including technicians and maintenance personnel of the various departments. Wich is kinda obvious, since he was the boss. You sound delusional, go to the infirmary. My point is, none are named in so many words in the series - apart from USSR's scapegoats. Criticisms for these shows are allowed, and will cause amazing conversations. Ultimately, how you source media is your business. According to Toptunov, Dyatlov not only witnessed the power fall but also—enraged—told him to withdraw more control rods from the reactor to increase power. 'Chernobyl' character Anatoly Dyatlov has been turned into one of the best memes of 2019 thanks to his numerous unbelieveable quotes. It's one thing to display someone inaccurately, but when that inaccuracy is something important to they way they view a person, then it's very important to them. The story of the world’s biggest man-made disaster has appealed to both the audience and the critics – the miniseries has been watched by about a million viewers, it has received lots of reviews internationally. The events of HBO's Chernobyl are rooted in the historic 1986 disaster, in which a Soviet nuclear reactor exploded, contaminated the surrounding … Dyatlov was in a serious relationship with Zinaida (one of the few possessions found on his body was a picture of her). No judgment allowed here. That part of the world is very big on machismo/bravado, so I can see why it would matter to her. Then over 30 years later Stolyarchuk said in an interview that there wasn't any unusual fuss, and it was essentially a normal shift. I thought the ignorance more pointed to the lack of general knowledge about radiation (which as someone who works in nuclear, this is still insanely common in US 2020). Rendered by PID 1398 on r2-app-04687c972eecb1d65 at 2021-01-01 01:09:03.434719+00:00 running c709bd6 country code: US. They weren't getting those positions by arguing and contradicting the boss, especially in front of others. When we went inside, we had this amazing tour guide that spoke about what happened, who the key players were etc. During such work, various experiments on equipment are usually carried out. Because no one who actually witnessed the events ever reported this, and to the contrary, denied it ever happening. But you have to balance it against other informed non-eyewitnesses who seem convinced that there was some sort of reluctance. It is understandable that the show made him out to be the douche that was irresponsible, since it is fictional, they cut off some scenes that would humanize him so that he would seem like a bigger monster. At that time, it was supposed to carry out a run-down of the rotor of the turbogenerator, according to which the kinetic energy of the turbogenerator, in the event of its disconnection, was to provide energy to the pumps for cooling the reactor. Do we have a button that gives 3.6 upvotes? Kinda makes you wonder. HBO's Chernobyl was a lost opportunity to explore the human beings behind the icons chosen by the USSR to deflect the blame from the real culprits. I could go on, but I'm sure others will elaborate. So he may not have had any siblings he was in contact with. The operators violated the ORM (operator reactivity margin) by a few rods, but nothing in the documentation suggested that a low ORM could turn AZ-5 into a self destruct-button. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What is the cost of memes? Born in 1931 in a small village of Atamanovo in Russia’s Krasnoyarsk region, Anatoly finished just seven years of school. Best Alternate Ending for Season 8. Now, there's a lot of heat around Dyatlov, but I hear the audio tape of control room #4 not being disclosed to this day could be playing a part in fueling broad speculations. You can’t blame him for the mistakes the soviets made, he may have been reckless but he didn’t know the consequences. A man in a sweater and large glasses (Jared Harris) sits in a Moscow kitchen, listening to his own voice emanating from a clunky cassette player. In 1945, he enrolled in the electrical engineering department of the Norilsk Mining and Metallurgical Technical School and graduated with honors five years later. No reposting of news, or superfluous discussion threads. [–]smishNelson 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (4 children). They're the ones who expect 110% out of everyone and don't suffer fools, mistakes, or incompetence. And I think i would do other things if i was in front of his grave. There are examples of decent management, but most people managed in the way that they were managed: to the point with no discussion. A… As for disabling the reactor shutdown upon turbogenerator trip, the operators were allowed to do this. But was he as reckless as the Soviet narrative claimed? Anatoly Dyatlov was the Deputy Chief Engineer at Chernobyl on April 26, 1986, and was convicted for its catastrophic meltdown. The following is an excerpt of Midnight in Chernobyl by Adam Higginbotham. [–]DrunkenDude123 23 points24 points25 points 4 months ago (2 children), She was portrayed to be very ignorant imo, [–]BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 12 points13 points14 points 4 months ago (1 child), Yes... but I don’t think she was portrayed as stupid. While Dyatlov is portrayed as a man to be hated, in reality he wasn’t such a delusional person. He wrote a letter to Toptunov’s parents. For example: To view the spoiler, simply hover your cursor over the text. I do this post because i want to see your opinions. Am certain that he certainly didnt save the day, and to some extend failed, but if he failed, someone else in his position would have most likely too. He was human just like everyone else and he was very knowledgeable of what he was doing. Dumb or offensive content will be removed, depending on user reactions. I'm not really sure which relatives those are, other than his wife, who is in poor health. Was there any safety regulation that ordered to shut down a reactor until the xenon dissipates? So i wouldn't say that the guy went "by the book", New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. He was a villain in the piece, but not THE villain. This video is unavailable. So I imagine if Dyatlovs family did they would be pretty disappointed about how he was shown. So I'm wondering because this really shines a new light on what I know about the disaster. Of course, you could (depending on your boss) discuss and negotiate, but the Soviet style of management lent itself to simply not asking questions. Same goes with Voices of Chernobyl. The show was altered to show him to be cruel, demanding and unkind. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Chernobyl: Brave men and women act heroically to mitigate catastrophic damage when the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant suffers a nuclear accident on April 26, 1986. The "gross violation of safety regulations" and other charges against Dyatlov et. She didn't outright say it, but it did seem like she inferred he was vilified to be the fall guy. Watch Queue Queue © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Tregub said this in a letter to Dyatlov, while the other two testified at the trial. Moreover, the experiment pretty much necessitated this, and let's not forget that the reactor blew up pretty much exactly in the circumstances that the automatic shutdown would have gone into action anyway. Lyudmilla was shown very positively wasn’t she? Does that really matter? The govt story blamed Leonid (only 25) and Akimov, saying they were incompetent and reckless. Which, in my opinion, were from the ranks of the KGB, then the Gosplan, and therefore ultimately the Politburo. [–]otakudude3031 14 points15 points16 points 4 months ago (1 child). [–]nynikai 28 points29 points30 points 4 months ago (5 children). A subreddit to discuss and research Chernobyl Disaster that happened on the night of April 26, 1986. [–]ppitm 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (1 child). Please use the "search" bar to see if your topic is already being discussed. It's a different culture. What is important is WOULD SOMEONE ELSE DO BETTER IN HIS PLACE? Very interesting, thanks for such a quick reply. The recording claims that lies are dangerous: lying too frequently makes it impossible to detect the truth. TV shows especially history ones always alter them in some sense to make them more interesting and there always is a bully.. in this case it's Dyatlov and should always be taken with a pinch of salt. On April 5, 1986 scheduled maintenance work was scheduled for the fourth power unit of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. If you want to discuss something without getting spoiled, add the "no spoilers" flair to your submission, then users will not be allowed to openly spoil in that thread. Dyatlov wrote to Leonid’s parents and assured them their son had done his job well and sympathized with them about losing a child. As to operating the reactor below 700 MW, there was nothing in the documentation that prohibited this. The test wasn't just him, Briuhkanov and other higher ups were really pushing on him for it as the test had been repeatedly delayed or failed for quite a while (6 months if I remember correctly). If you're lazy, incompetent, or just didn't perform well, these people made your life a living hell. This "safety rule" was actually conjured up by the Soviets after the fact, to make the operators look guilty. Then, in March, HBO premiered the miniseries Chernobyl, which chronicled the aftermath of the disaster, and the subreddit changed drastically. The ORM limit of 15 rods was to prevent the core from falling into a Xenon pit: When lowering power, 135Xe-levels will initially build up and the ORM needs to be high enough to be able to compensate for this, otherwise the reactor will stall, causing unnecessary downtime. The salient point I got from the series was that a number of people were negligent, but the responsibility ultimately lay with the Soviet system itself, because of its authoritarian nature and total lack of transparency. Like Nikolai Karpan or one of the people who interviewed people in the hospital. He also wrote a letter to toptunovs parents telling them that their son was a very brave young man who did nothing wrong. Dyatlov, tall, thin and looking older than his 62 years, was the engineer in charge of reactor No. It's easy to see how someone like this would generate such radically different opinions of them. Listen to his conversation on Science Friday here. [–]Panzerkwk40 4 points5 points6 points 4 months ago (0 children), [–]smoledman 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (2 children), [–]Silverwhite2 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (1 child), [–]smoledman 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children). The other half is part of a three-decade smear campaign, inaugurated by the propaganda machine and scientific community of the USSR. Finally Uskov (who wasn't there) wrote somewhat tellingly that 'there were practically no protests'. Also, the computers and instrumentation did not make it possible to have information of the ORM in real time. After watching the show I decided to read the book Chernobyl: The History of a Nuclear Disaster, which I would highly recommend to everyone. Wich is kinda obvious, since he was the boss. The KGB character says it himself-- "we will have our heroes, we will have our villains, we will have our truth". He was nowhere near the horrible person they made him out to be in the show and it really villainizes him. You did what you were told, consequences be damned. Where one is expected to install a glass screw into a sheet of glass, using a 12lb sledgehammer. We might hear from Dyatlov's family at some point, since a Chernobyl Youtuber has been slowly approaching them over time. It should be noted that there's not so much disagreements around HBO's Bryukhanov lack of depth and complexity. That moment someone says something so stupid that it actually makes you squint. It's perfectly normal that Lyudmilla is upset about the way her husband was portrayed, because any portrayal is partly inaccurate and the tragic death of her husband surely makes it feel very personal to her. She was pretty dumb in the show. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. People like Bryuckhanov, Fomin and Dyatlov were just flawed human beings, doing what they had to do in order to move up in that system. I really dislike that sentence. and join one of thousands of communities. This would have made the explosion occur 36 seconds earlier, that's all. Teens discovered and hijacked the forum, filling it with memes mocking characters like Dyatlov (Paul Ritter), the power plant’s deputy chief engineer. Interview with Dyatlov during the 90s with english subtitles, [–]Bdtiger95 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (2 children), You got a link for the channel since i cant really read russian or ukranian, [–]ppitm 2 points3 points4 points 4 months ago (1 child), https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJaeoMrHULFSRL0MYiDqPWg, [–]Bdtiger95 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (0 children), [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 months ago (0 children). 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