They do remove a portion of the cervix with that procedure. She said the amount they take off with one procedure isn't enough to cause alot of concern. It doesn't grow back, but generally they don't take much tissue. It essentially scars over and if we're just talking about tissue from a colposcopic biopsy, if you take a look at the cervix after a couple of months you'd be hard pressed to be able to tell where the biopsy was taken because the cervix usually heals quite well. Adenocarcinoma in situ - what to ask, where to go? I ve been fighting Genital Wars for whole summer now. There are 2000 member nurses in UK. Doctors aren't psychic - the whole issue of this hideous virus is that it is difficult to know who to treat - they don't know what biopsies will say in advance or which one would progress to cancer. 25 Replies, Here's some research on how trauma to the cervix can cause cervical endometriosis and also articles on how endometriosis can be misinterpreted ... This discussion is closed to comments. Cervical ectropion happens when cells that line the inside of your cervix grow on the outside. For the first year after LEEP, your doctor will probably want to see you every few months for Pap tests. In UK a nurse does it, not a gyneacologist so costs next to nothing except 4 ampoules of dental local and bit of monsels paste as consumesbles. After LEEP, most women are able to return to most of their normal activities within 1 to 3 days. I did see my gynecologist again last year in November and the exam showed ASCUS and negative hrHPV. After you have a colposcopy, your vagina may feel a little sore for a couple of days.If you had a biopsy, you may also have spotting or dark-colored vaginal discharge.Use a pad, panty-liner, or tampon — unless your doctor or nurse tells you not to use tampons. It puts me at ease! I am now looking to assisted intrauterine insemination or IUI. This was conducted in 2002 ... I don't see why a LEEP would affect fertility differently after August 2015? 23 Replies, I went for a culposcopy and my new Doc ordered a LEEP procedure ASAP, though I had no health insurance and my culposcopy results showed moderate ... The cervix grows back after conization. Doing the application treatments you have to be there twice a week for 5 weeks. That's right Lucy. The cervix is the opening of your uterus (womb). 23 Replies, just found out i have (hpv)high risk.dont no what to do.is it ok to start planning a will,and preping for when i die ... Thanks for your help. Also age is an important factor when younger folks have better odds of clearing the dysplasia. Your doctor may call this a vault smear. I can't even wear menstrual cups anymore. When I tried to ask questions one week later I was completely fobbed off they very defensive off hand uncaring and told me to see my GP. Cost wise-there are books available online and the protocols should work. A LEEP uses an electrically charged wire loop to remove abnormal cervical tissue. Go to dr. Nick Leroy. The naturopathic way seems great but it does NOT heal dysplasia in the canal. Your dr will monitor you more closely- specifically measuring the cervix length via ultrasound. Hi Hadenough1, My advice is to seek other alternative like laser ablation after biopsy as this does not same risks or better still a natural immunity therapy with surgery as a backup. link to one days training video for a nurse to get certification for LLETZ The laboratory studies the tissue and makes sure the abnormal cells have been cut away. After LEEP you’ll have some cramps and discharge. For every one they get wrong they will get thousands right. I start spotting lightly for ... It usually takes at least 6 months to conceive so hopefully I will soon. I am only 23 years old ... There's a good chance that it will come back if it's fast-growing, or advanced or widespread -- … I know I have not been on this website for a long time. Very rarely the abnormal cells can come back in this area, so you will be offered tests at 6 months and 18 months after your hysterectomy. I had a deep LLETZ, I think yours had very little tissue removed. A bit like circumcising newborn boys by obstitricians to make money. Have any of you actually seen him for treatment? 21 Replies, Hi everyone, I am new to the website and so glad I've found this place. Cancer cells can spread to other parts of the body. This may be done with a small knife, an electric wire (LEEP), or with a laser. This product is matched to user comments in this post. To start a new discussion in this community, please click here. Vicky, I personally don't know if ND can help on dysplasia in canal, but I think the idea is to treat the dysplasia as early as possible. 13 Replies, From what I’m reading, it sounds like 12 escharotic treatments is the norm. The nurse told me I had cancer and she was just going to remove the abnormal cells. i.e. hi Hadenough1, An OB told me they rarely see weak cervixes as a result -- if anything, she said, they tend to see firmer cervixes if it created scar tissue. I don't believe that cervical tissue regenerates. LLETZ stands for large loop excision of the transformation zone. A cerclage can be put in usually around 12-13 weeks. 1. I got pregnant in October. My DD (dear daughter) was born happy, healthy and right on time. Also as you cannot understand why a LLETZ interferes with fertility, I sugest you checkout the anotomy and physiology of the cervical canal and particularly the sperm transport mechanism. hi Hadenough1, Do not submit to LEEP unless really necessary. A woman had HPV-caused cervical cancer removed via loop electrosurgical excision procedure (LEEP) two years ago. I may be way off here, but that is what I have learned. Abnormal cells in the cervix may cause bleeding when it is not time for your monthly period. Are you sure you want to delete this reply? I usually tell my patients who have no evidence of cervical cancer to wait six months before trying to conceive. Despite what they tell you it will affect your fertility but function is meant to return after 3 month maximum. A whole industry is set up now based on LEEP as it is so cheap to do. My OB explained to me that they don't generally see problems with pregnancy unless a patient has had multiple LEEPs (more than 5 or so), and even then, many people are fine. Excessive activity should be avoided the first 48 hours and exercise should be avoided for at least one week to lessen the chance of heavy bleeding. For the fastest help on, More posts in "July 2010 Birth Club" group, Create a post in "July 2010 Birth Club" group, the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information. Thank you for the suggestion. Test Results After the LEEP procedure, your doctor will send samples of your tissues to a laboratory to check for signs of cervical cancer. After my first laser treatment to remove abnormal cells, it took 4 years for them to return. Our content is doctor approved and evidence based, and our community is moderated, lively, and welcoming. The first 4 days after your procedure, you may have vaginal discharge that looks like menstrual bleeding. I have had the same partner since my last treatment so I guess I was just unlucky. It’s also known as loop electrosurgical excision (LEEP) or loop diathermy. 25 Replies. I bled rather heavily last night and I had to be operated urgently ... That is why there is a danger of preterm delivery if more than 6 ccs volume is removed or the depth is greater than 1.5cm in depth. Just a curious 12 week prego that wont be seeing her doc for some time and wanted feedback! I also had a LEEP done about 2 1/2 years ago and my doctor (same doctor who performed the procedure) doesn't seem concerned. ... (CIN3) 1 week after my leep i had to go back to the doctor for heavy bleeding that was NOT my ... 2 Replies. Also they used to treat CIN 1 but don't any longer. After LEEP you may have mild cramping for a day or so. I have now had time to do research on HPV and progression to cancer. And possible one more time...That's it! All subsequent Pap smears and HPV tests have been negative. Then, I found a couple of research papers that state that about 75% of the cervix will regrow within 6 months. the LEEP biopsy can weaken your cervix during a pregnancy, but there are measures that can be taken, a circlage and bedrest, as far as colposcopy biopsies, they are tiny pieces tha twill not affect it, that tissue does not fully grow back, but a normal cervix is about 4-6 inches long, so taking some usually doesnt interfere at all, In fact, once cells in the cervix begin to undergo abnormal changes, it can take several years for the cells to grow into invasive cervical cancer. The cone pathology is done in China so takes 4 weeks to come back. A trip to the gyno on Friday, and one look under the … The basic methodology for Naturopathic treatment includes two parts 1)treat the infected area if; 2) build stronger immune system, which is a much better solution for people who have immune issues and older people, esp after menopause...it's worth the time and money, per my understanding. Does the cervix grow back after a LEEP procedure? Cervical tissue doesn't regenerate, but they generally only take a very small layer of it. I now know this absolute rubbish. My guess is it's possible personal choice I think...I'd rather fix it asap so that I don't have to worry in case it escalates to be something more severe and be transmitted to some other area... Jj0502 viruses once in our body they do not stay in one place. The success of naturopathic treatment might be poorly correlated with the body produced antibodies on its own that fought the virus or the increased use of vitamins , less stress etc helped immune system to fight the virus. Frequency of Escharotic Treatments & Timing for Re-test. I may need it again and have no worries about it. https://youtu.be/5nMnHVsetHs I was told to get a LEEP procedure done since the mild dysplasia has been so persistent. 14 Replies, Hello, I have been on here since 2009, going on 3 years cancer-free when I was called in for a second scan to find that I have "activity" in ... So I had the unfortunate news of being diagnosed with pre-cancerous cells on Thursday. Anyone know the answers? It is done under local anesthesia and normally on an outpatient basis in hospitals or in a doctor's office. As to cervix regeneration it does not happen it just heals. Once you contracted HPV virus (it entered your body) just because you touched it in one place and then another it doesn't matter anymore - it's already in your system. In the first 24 hours after your procedure: Drink 8 to 12 (8-ounce) glasses of liquids. Hi Vicky86111, The depth removed by a half round loop 20mm by 10mm is about 8mm on the ectocervix as the crypts can be to that depth and these must be removed as these could have HPV infection. You were lucky and by the way I was CIN3 by colposocopy but actualy was CIN1 by biopsy. Due to an electrosurgical technique used in leep cervix surgery, the tissue of your cervix grows back without much problem. Thanks everyone! link to training for nurse colposcopists. Type 3 is where the transformation zone descends into the cervical canal and cannot be easiy visulaized. I have received good advice from you in the past and I am wondering if anyone has ever heard about the scar tissue being dangerous ... When can you start trying to conceive after a LEEP? Prof Walter Prendeville looking for a knighthood for exoneration of this procedure. I appreciate it. I agree. 3. Since you only had one, you should be fine.. CIN 1 clears on its own while CIN 2-3 doesn't. I have added 2 pictures healed at 12 months and mine at 4 weeks so you can see for yourself. FYI Everyone is different. What is the most inconvenient about this treatment is that there are not many places that do it and you have to go there twice a week for 6 weeks. This information explains what to expect during and after your loop electrosurgical excision procedure (LEEP). ajrelaford- just be sure to mention your LEEP early to your dr. Only files 8MB or smaller of the following types are supported: JPEG, PNG, GIF. This makes it hard for the body to work the way it should. The information by medicos profiting is distorted. Proof that Nurses do LLETZ in UK with NHS in colposocopy clinic. Heavy lifting (over 15 lbs) should also be avoided. It usually takes about 4 to 6 weeks for your cervix to heal after this procedure. https://www.bsccp.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/colposcopy-tra... I know plenty of people who have had this done and have had no problems at all. I bought Dr. Nick Leroy's book and I found it really informative. My LLETZ was done 6 months ago and I do not seem to be able to fall pregnant. You will end up with a shorter cervix which could cause pregnancy problems. Low grade dysplasia is when you just should wait to see if it goes away because it usually does - with or without naturopathic treatment. The cervix consists of squamous epithelia on the ectocervix and columnar epithelia on the in the endocervix. I should know a nurse did with other 3 nurses discussing my details. Depending how much is removed the cervix will look a it will be after about 8 weeks. Did you have problems, have to go on bed rest or get stitched up? I would like the opinion of other people on this website. If so how long does it take? Should I get a LEEP FOR CIN 2? He said that the tissue changes after freezing and laser ablation and it would be much harder to see if any abnormalities occur during future exams. refer to Prof Walter Prendiville ref LLETZ he invented the LLETZ or LEEP procedure It may be done to confirm a cancer diagnosis or treat precancerous conditions of your cervix. Hopefully this virus will be beaten and our daughters will not have to have their cervices cut and burnt anymore. He has reversed cis and ais.He pipettes in a wonderful solution and it gets rid of abnormal cels as well as thoe that have viral. Ditto here, had a LEEP (after a colposcopy revealed low grade) - focal point was high grade when they removed, so good timing there! I had a LEEP 8 months ago and had an extremely slow healing process with inflammation, in addition to horrible scarring where the cervix has attached itself to my vaginal wall.. has shortened the vagina and has affected my sex life. The LEEP procedure may have some side effects that can cause some concern, however, and women who undergo the procedure may also wonder if they face a higher risk for cervical cancer. It's not a yeast infection that would grow anywhere you touch it. Good luck, Don't get ithe leep done. Typically they wouldn't do it unless they saw precancerous cells. Started ... The healing process starts fairly quickly with new epithelia covering the raw crater of the excision once a collagen layer is in place. Periods that last two weeks after LEEP procedure. How many LEEPs can a person have before there is nothing left to take ... I was also upset because the hospital I went to had no financial aid programs and I am still a poor student so it will take many months to pay it off. I am very pleased yours was so successful. Having had the LEEP on the NHS it is nothing like you describe. It was always see and treat and thank goodness for that - perhaps your CIN 3 turned about to be CIN 1 - mine didn't, mine was CIN 3 on colposcopy and biopsy. When cancer cells do this, it’s called metastasis. She said that since I don't have scar tissue, my cervix should be fine but she'll be monitoring it through out the pregnancy. It is cool how you have a pic of your cervix! I had a LEEP in March 09 and my doctor told me to wait 6 months before I got pregnant. BabyCenter aims to share products and services we hope you'll find interesting and helpful. Stp19, bad pap leads to colposcopy...bad colposcopy leads to LEEP. Cervical cancer is a slow-growing malignancy. LEEP was not cheap for me, the surgery and doctor bills were $7,000 because of GA. Incidentally my cone biopsy came back clear margins and CIN 1. A LEEP is a procedure to remove abnormal tissue from your cervix (the bottom part of your uterus, located at the top of your vagina). It doesn't grow back, but generally they don't take much tissue. I wonder if the TTC is delayed due to just that it usually takes time to get preggo. !....I expect to be healed 100% in 3 months...no medical procedures...few suppliments..that's it! Eat well-balanced, healthy meals. I have a couple of questions regarding anyone who has had a LEEP and then had kids? 1,145 Replies, So here is a couple of general questions. Some choose to submit just a single image, such as the cervix after childbirth, during a Pap smear or after a LEEP procedure to remove precancerous cells. 2. Lucy 52 what complete rubbish you are speaking. Immediate recovery takes about two weeks. https://www.bsccp.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/colposcopy-tra... https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/misguided-naturopath-claims... National Cervical Cancer Coalition Topics, HPV and cervical cancer vaccine prevention strategies, Cervical precancer (abnormal Paps and CIN) including procedures, Read more posts in Early detection and testing. There are several techniques to perform conization, such as with a scalpel ( cold knife conization), laser, or electrosurgical loop. We recommend that women avoid sex or inserting anything into the vagina for four weeks. Lucy, You are very helpful, thank you! I had the Leep procedure three months ago and ever since my periods have been lasting anywhere from 10-14 days. An OB told me they rarely see weak cervixes as a result -- if anything, she said, they tend to see firmer cervixes if it created scar tissue. 11 Replies, Hi Ladies! That usually results in LEEP with top hat. The healing process starts fairly quickly with new epithelia covering the raw crater of the excision once a collagen layer is in place. Hello everyone! 7 Replies, I wonder if anyone could kindly help me out. I am considering flying to Chicago for treatment. New tissue grows back in the cervix in four to six weeks. My current doc is aware, but isn't concerned - we'll just keep an eye on it. I had a LEEP in 2004 and had a healthy pregnancy in 08! Thank you everyone for your help. I would have some concerns regarding incompetent cervix following a LEEP. I absolutley agree but make sure it really is CIN3 by biopsy and not just CIN1. Did your cervix grow back and had no problems with Pregnancy? I saw the trial of the therapeutic vaccine and noticed that a high percentage regressed spontaneously in placebo which made comparison of effectiveness more difficult to assess. 1. Well I have had another colposcopy in November 2015 and was told the gynaecologists would treat there and then if needed, going back in April and told the same. The both epithelia tissue regrow the stroma tissue does not. In hindsight I would never get a LEEP done again. 12 Replies, Hello, I was wondering if anyone else has the diagnosis of Adenocarcinoma in situ with CIN II and high grade dysplasia? 15 Replies, I came across an article that compares how much tissue was removed in a cone procedure versus a LEEP procedure. If everything is fine, you won't need to have any more tests after that. When you check into the hospital the day/night of let the nurse know your history. I had a LEEP years ago, no problem with pregnancy but had problems dilating. I had a LEEP proceedure done about 8 years ago for HPV. It's only 85 dollars. The endocervix can be removed down to 2 cm with a smaller square loop of 10mm. the fact that you have 2 pregnancies indicates your LLETZ was done before August 2015 The muscular, vascular, nerve and connective tissues are in the cervical stroma. Cancer cells in the cervix can sometimes travel to the lung and grow there. With HPV, or an abnormal PAP, they would do a colposcopy. Mine was precancer cells on both. In the cervical canal is columnar mucus producing and ciliated epithelia that constitute the sperm transport system and clearly if this is removed like in me it will take some time to get back to normal. “The decision to refer a … Oh and a nurse does NOT perform the LEEP it is a gynaecologist. If it is only ASCUS and not HSIL it's not teally necessary. LEEP is an acronym for loop electrosurgical excision procedure. I had my second lletz 2 weeks ago. You may bleed after menopause (no longer getting your monthly period), or after having sex. Many women experience precancerous changes in the cervix in their 20s and 30s, though the average woman with cervical cancer is diagnosed in her 50s. i'm on Naturopathic medicine for about 1 and half months now...85-90% healed! Also, no insurance covers the treatments. I would definitely talk to your OB and share your concerns. The LLETZ or LEEP will remove entire transformation zone completely and depending on the lesion and the type of transformation zone will determine the amount of tissue removed by the procedure. With thousands of award-winning articles and community groups, you can track your pregnancy and baby's growth, get answers to your toughest questions, and connect with moms, dads, and expectant parents just like you. Just so you know, we may earn a commission if you buy something we've linked to here. I heard that the cervical stenosis is usually why it is hard to TTC. Back to top Caring for Yourself at Home. There are things you can do to make yourself more comfortable. I think you do not have stenosis. What do I need to do after my colposcopy procedure? Did your cervix regenerate or just heal? Going to Chicago is worth it.. drnick.net, I second going to Dr. Leroy.... do NOT have a LEEP! 4 Replies, I would like to ask if anyone can tell me how long should I be taking 3gr of AHCC. You will be told to avoid sexual intercourse, douching and using tampons for 3 to 4 weeks. The gynecologist told me that LEEP is much better than freezing or laser ablation because he can see margins in depth. When my results came back, my doctor told me they would need to use a low-voltage electrical current — a LEEP — to remove the abnormal cells from my cervix. The troublesome bit is the from SCJ the the end of the transformation zone. In the UK they do 'see and treat' to get NHS 'bonus scores' because just one appointment not 2 so its efficiency like treating sheep. cervix does not grow back, Mine healed perfectly, I havent had a a problem since I had it done feb. 2006. they took a big chunk. The purpose of the LEEP is to essentially "shave" off the bad cells, and cause new ones to grow. Generally progression is slow. NOT NECESSARY TO TREAT IN SOMEONE UNDER 25 unless it persists longer than 12 months. During the leep procedure in NYC, only a certain amount of tissue is removed. The more I read about the naturopathic treatments I think people either just take Mega doses of vitamins (then again exceeding daily dose might be harmful) and some in addition have something applied on the cervix (no way to apply in the canal without pain). But honestly, it is SO (significant other) common -- I've seen tons of deliveries of women who had it -- I wouldn't worry at all. If you have an abnormal cervical cancer screening result, your health care professional may suggest that you have a loop electrosurgical excision procedure (LEEP) as part of the evaluation or for treatment (see the FAQ085 Cervical Cancer Screening).LEEP is one way to remove abnormal cells from the cervix by using a thin wire loop that acts like a scalpel (surgical knife). As for how frequent you need to visit ND, my guess is it depends on treatments and I think most of NDs would work with you if you live too far....Most likely, once or twice per month for 3 months would be max my understanding...I visited my ND 3 time so far in 1 and half months. Reoccurance of CIN3 after LEEP In: National Cervical Cancer Coalition. Following the procedure, the new tissue grows back in the cervix in 4-6 weeks. They reuse the instruments and electricity is cheap. VERY HAPPY ABOUT THE RESULTS!! A colposcopy is when your doctor examines your cervix through a microscope, at which point they may also take that cervical biopsy. LEEP was in 99 and DD (dear daughter) was born in 2006. Thank you for all your help and stories! They measured my cervix through u/s and all looked well. Get facts straight. Doc said the only time women normally have problems is with multiple LEEPS. You are passing a message to a BabyCenter staff member. Does your OB know you had a LEEP? But, almost all surgeries have some sort of complications-more or less...which may be carried for the rest of life...Any invasive treatments cause physical trauma technically... A LEEP can help diagnose or treat cervical cancer.A doctor may suggest a LEEP if a person is having symptoms that indicate a problem with the cervix or vagina. The cells for the test are taken from the top of the vagina, near where your cervix was. I would like to hear from others having problems conceiving after a LLETZ, the literatures says up 12 months. Get expert guidance from the world's #1 pregnancy and parenting resource, delivered via email, our apps, and website. It does carry a small risk that the cervix will be scarred over (cervical stenosis), as well as the risk of bleeding, infection, swelling of the cervix after the procedure, and post-procedure pain. The cervical tissue and cell samples are then sent to a lab to be looked at under a microscope. I was concerned whether or not the cervix will regrow and my gynecologist said it will. The removed tissue is then sent to the laboratory. Like pp said, kinda depends on how much was taken. Other than this problem, I am a 29 year old healthy female who does not smoke at all or drink much alcohol. 8 Replies, I have had two coloposcopies come back fine in the past 10 years, just abnomal cells/inflamation. Normal? 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